
In 1966, on the top of the Civil Rights Motion, Black mega-celebrity and activist Dick Gregory was sentenced to 90 days within the Thurston County jail in Washington for unlawful internet fishing.
As a coordinated motion of sit-ins for voting rights and desegregation unfold throughout the South like wildfires, “fish-ins,” an effort for elevated native fishing rights, popped up within the Pacific Northwest. Tribes in Washington had been protesting state legal guidelines that banned types of fishing aside from hook-and-line as a result of it denied fishing rights assured to Native folks via an 1854 treaty. The legislation on the time favored white business fishers who had been overfishing, threatening the livelihoods of Native folks.
The protests caught the eye of the comic, and he joined Native activists at the same time as the pinnacle of the Nisqually Indian Tribal Council in Washington frowned upon his participation, claiming that Gregory was making an attempt to make it a Black difficulty and a “civil rights matter.” Whereas incarcerated, Gregory participated in a starvation strike, dwelling solely on water and bread for practically 40 days earlier than being hospitalized.
But, amid anti-Black sentiment from some, different Native residents appreciated Gregory “co-struggling” with them, says group organizer and scholar Mariame Kaba. Her new short magazine highlights the interconnectedness of struggles amongst marginalized folks and the unparalleled energy of Black activism.
She says Gregory’s activism additionally serves as a mannequin for what multiracial coalitions and movement-building may appear like at present. Because the momentum of the racial solidarity of 2020 has dwindled and new state legal guidelines threaten the political energy of marginalized communities and the educating of various histories, Kaba says the under-told story of fish-ins remains to be related. Kaba, who’s additionally the creator of We Do This ‘Till We Free Us, hopes to reinvigorate the decision for solidarity, significantly amongst disenfranchised folks, via her ‘zine. It reveals the expansive nature of civil rights protests, from labor rights to environmental justice and meals entry.
“There’s been numerous dialog about Black-centered management [since 2020,] however Black battle has at all times been concerned with working with different folks globally to convey a few extra simply and liberated world for everybody,” defined Kaba, a founding father of multiple local and national organizations centered on group training fashions and ending incarceration.
In an interview with Capital B, Kaba defined that regardless of anti-Black sentiments, Gregory’s push for an additional disenfranchised group finally led to a major victory as Indigenous folks secured their rights within the “most vital authorized case within the Native American fishing debate up to now 120 years.”
Capital B sat down with Kaba, one of the country’s leading abolitionist thinkers, to study extra about this historic second of racial solidarity and the way it may be used for example for Black activists at present.

Capital B: What was so particular or distinctive about “fish-ins,” and what does that second of solidarity inform us concerning the other ways disenfranchised folks can unite?
Mariame Kaba: The very first thing was that I had by no means heard of the fish-in till a number of years in the past, after I occurred to come back throughout an previous {photograph} of Dick Gregory on a fishing boat with a Native American particular person paddling behind him. And I used to be like, “Fish-ins? You imply a sit-in on water? What’s that?” I’d by no means heard of it.
I believed it was vital as a result of we’ve got been in a second the place folks have been speaking lots about Black lives mattering, and us desirous to get solidarity round that a part of our battle, making an attempt to convey folks alongside from totally different areas, totally different elements of the world, and totally different elements of our cultures to battle alongside Black folks. So it struck me instantly that, oh, in fact, Dick Gregory could be working in solidarity with native indigenous peoples round a battle that they had been a part of. So sure, I feel there are classes for us at present.
For me, solidarity is a praxis that’s, as Ruthie Wilson Gilmore says, “repeatedly made and remade.” And it’s a praxis that focuses on how our existence and our beings are linked and interconnected. Subsequently, it insists that we work out methods to have reciprocal care and a method to battle alongside one another, particularly when a few of us are in danger.
The phrases ally and allyship have penetrated the tradition, and while you consider an ally, you consider any person who steps into one thing. However then when that factor is, supposedly, quote, unquote, accomplished, steps again onto the opposite facet of that line the place they’re again in their very own lives.
I haven’t appreciated that language as a result of it connotes the improper thought. It offers you a way that you just’re doing one thing for another person, fairly than in it with different folks as a result of we’re inextricably linked to one another. So I’ve at all times used the phrase co-struggle, which suggests you’ve gotten an funding on this work and see your self as implicated as co-struggling alongside any person else.
This jogs my memory of the distinctive second we’re in at present, particularly in Chicago, with some Black residents fearful that asylum seekers are taking their sources versus a second for solidarity constructing. Have been there examples of a necessity for racial solidarity at present that pushed you to publish the zine?
The explanation I put the zine out was as a result of I feel it’s vital for us after we’re within the midst of battle to at all times look to what has occurred earlier than, not as a result of it’s going to provide us the best way ahead, however fairly, it’s going to assist us decide what inquiries to ask whereas we’re in battle.
It’s not stunning that we’re in a second — which we’ll at all times be — the place we’re coping with the tensions of dwelling in a multiracial, multi-everything society. We’re at all times going to have tensions throughout our variations, and it’s vital to take a look at a narrative like this and say, “Yeah, we needs to be welcoming to folks coming from different locations, who’re displaced.”
As Black people, we’re displaced folks. You could really feel rooted on this land, however this isn’t our land. While you see your self as totally different, you don’t acknowledge the displacement that we’ve got in widespread and suppose to ourselves, “Properly, what, how would we need to be handled?”
How do civil, labor, and environmental and meals justice, rights intersect?
One factor that [prison industrial complex] abolition has afforded me is a method to not middle a selected factor, however to middle all of it as a result of it’s linked to every part. To have an expansive imaginative and prescient and to see the ways in which no matter your battle is, it connects to different struggles. To make the modifications we need to see, we’ve got to alter every part else round no matter it’s we’re centered on.
I’ve been so heartened through the years now to see, for instance, youthful people who find themselves keen on local weather justice work, speak, and suppose via abolition as a result of they see the connection between the ways in which prisons, for instance, sit on poisonous land, the best way that local weather change makes these explicit captive populations much more weak. They’re seeing the connection between police and policing via “Cease Cop Metropolis” and the ways in which the cops are razing a forest to create coaching grounds in order that they will higher police and surveil the very people who find themselves making an attempt to keep up that forest and are linked to land.
All these items are linked to one another, and I feel that Dick Gregory was pushing alongside Native peoples to keep up their fishing rights, which had been then meant to maintain that setting clear in order that they might fish, and in order that’s labor and environmental justice. Persons are capable of proceed making a dwelling fishing.
He was any person who pioneered therapeutic and meals justice methodology and had a complete factor round vitamin and meals and the significance of excellent meals, significantly for Black folks, poor folks, and folks of shade to stay longer lives, to stay more healthy lives. I feel in this type of a protest, you see all these totally different threads of his pursuits coming collectively, and I feel that that’s actually critically vital as we’re combating now that we work out the place the locations of intersection are and the place we will pull our sources and pull our energy.
Gregory was a public determine who was additionally deeply concerned in social actions. At the moment, some reject superstar activism, however what function can high-profile people play to advance causes?
Dick Gregory was a large star. He was as well-known as Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock put collectively due to the restricted methods folks may entry leisure and being the one Black particular person allowed in so many alternative areas. So he is a superb instance of a star activist.
There’s numerous divisiveness to superstar activism at present, and that comes from the deep politicization of superstar to the purpose the place folks had been identical to, nicely, they’re simply in it for cash. Plus, our idea of tremendous superstar is so shrunken that you might be a star for doing actually nothing.
And guess what, numerous actions want celebrities to do totally different sorts of issues, to not be the spokesperson within the entrance particular person, however to provide cash, to boost cash. As a result of how are we going to pay for all these items? That is my pet peeve. I’m going into this on a regular basis. How are we going to cowl the price of these actions? We don’t have nation-states that again social actions. We’re going to want cash. And we’re going to wish individuals who can convey consideration to points.
There’s by no means going to be purity; there’s at all times going to be compromises which are made, and there will likely be new contradictions that may come up. We’ve to sit down with that and develop up. Gregory is an ideal particular person for example of superstar activism. We should always suppose via the existence of any person who was like this; what they did and didn’t do this was good. And we should always take these classes and maintain it shifting.