Sen. Mike Lee Outlines How Respect for Marriage Act Will Affect People of Faith

This can be a flippantly edited transcript of remarks Sen. Mike Lee delivered earlier than his modification to the so-called Respect for Marriage Act was voted on. That modification failed in a 48-49 vote Tuesday. Shortly after, the Senate handed the Respect for Marriage Act.

Madame President, in the present day, as standard winds blow in opposition to the person and girl of religion, we must always look to the Structure and keep in mind that Congress shall make no legislation respecting an institution of faith or prohibiting the free train thereof. We do a disservice to all Individuals if we elevate the rights of 1 group on the expense of one other.

On the one hand, there’s no present risk to same-sex marriage. It’s and can stay authorized nationwide whatever the final result of this laws earlier than us, the Respect for Marriage Act.

Alternatively, we’ve got present, actual, sustained ongoing assaults on non secular freedom. How we proceed in the present day will do nothing to the established order of same-sex marriage on this nation. It’s authorized and can stay authorized whatever the final result of this laws.

It’ll, nevertheless, if enacted, have profound penalties for individuals of religion.

Within the wake of the Dobbs choice, proponents of this laws have conjured up a collection of hypothetical situations leading to an imagined risk to the flexibility of same-sex {couples} to marry and benefit from the privileges of marriage. The rhetorical slippery slope goes one thing like this. First, they declare that some unknown, unnamed state is on the verge of passing an unknown, but to be proposed or imagined legislation prohibiting same-sex marriage. Subsequent, they think about that federal district courts will uphold this hypothetical state legislation regardless of the crystal clear path throughout the Dobbs and Obergefell opinions from the Supreme Court docket. Ought to that journey of unlikely hypotheticals transpire, they envision a case making its manner all the best way as much as the Supreme Court docket of the US.

All of this, regardless of the shortage of political will wherever in the US to ban same-sex marriage. Ought to that occur, proponents of this invoice contend that there’s a non-zero probability that one justice might determine to research the precise to marry, not by means of the prism of substantive due course of, because it has been since Obergefell was determined in 2015, however somewhat by means of the lens of the 14th Modification’s privileges or immunities clause.

Proponents of the invoice cite a single line inside Justice [Clarence] Thomas’s concurring opinion and means that one justice might successfully destroy authorized recognition of same-sex marriage, not simply prospectively, however undoing at present authorized same-sex marriage.

Now, this, Madame President, is an entire fantasy.

I’m not conscious of a single state in the US threatening to cross any legislation infringing the flexibility of any same-sex {couples} to marry or take pleasure in privileges related to marriage, nor am I conscious of a single state threatening to invalidate, inside their borders, marriages entered into in different states, neither is it in any respect clear that Justice Thomas himself was suggesting that Obergefell be overturned.

He was suggesting that it’s analyzed, like all substantive due course of, jurisprudence, to determine whether or not there is perhaps one other provision of the Structure underneath which it is perhaps extra applicable. They had been attributing to him statements he didn’t make, they had been attributing to him evaluation he didn’t even undertake in that one assertion concerning the doctrine of stare decisis, after which they had been attributing to state’s intentions they don’t have and haven’t expressed.

My colleagues have but to supply even a single instance of a same-sex marriage threatened by any present or pending state laws, not one, not a single one, and so they deliberately misread Justice Thomas’s concurring opinion in Dobbs and declare that the sky is falling, but it surely’s simply not taking place.

Sadly, we’re conscious of case after case the place people, charities, small companies, non secular colleges, and non secular establishments are being hauled into courts to defend themselves for residing out their religion. These individuals are not committing hate crimes in opposition to their neighbors. No, they’re not abusing friends for his or her private decisions both. No, they’re being hauled into courts throughout this nation for serving the poor, the needy, and the refugee in compliance with their sincerely-held non secular beliefs.

In Texas, the US Convention of Catholic Bishops is at present being sued for working in accordance with Catholic beliefs concerning marriage whereas offering foster properties for unaccompanied minor youngsters. Now, proponents of this invoice declare that these charities might be free to proceed to function. Nevertheless, in that case, the query is whether or not, as a result of the Convention of Catholic Bishops receives federal funding to assist with its work, it is perhaps working underneath shade of legislation.

If accepting grants and licenses from the federal government makes you an actor underneath shade of legislation, then lots of our non secular charities and colleges might be threatened by this laws, which depends on that un-narrowed, undefined phrase. Both the U.S. Convention of Catholic Bishops can stop working based on its non secular tenets or abandon its God-given mission to take care of the refugee.

In not less than three different instances, non secular childcare service businesses deemed to be appearing underneath shade of legislation are being shut out of foster care and adoption. These non secular ministries can both abandon and stop to behave based on their convictions, their non secular convictions about marriage, or they will abandon the orphan. This nation and our orphans depend on these charities.

We can not and should not drive that call on them. That isn’t who we’re. From the very second of our founding, we’ve been a nation that has welcomed individuals of all beliefs and of no perception in any respect.

Lately, the Obama administration, by means of the U.S. Division of Schooling, compiled a so-called disgrace checklist outlining greater than 200 faith-based schools and universities in search of non secular exemptions from Title IX steering on transgender and intercourse discrimination. It’s extremely possible that these organizations might additionally danger dropping their 501c3 standing.

Madame President, contemplating that we’re within the means of hiring 87,000 new brokers throughout the Inside Income Service, it’s not past the realm of chance that a few of these new IRS brokers might be deployed particularly to assessment the tax-exempt standing of a few of these historically exempt non secular colleges. These schools and universities can both stop working based on their non secular convictions or run the chance of dropping their potential to offer high quality training at decreased costs. We could effectively discover that they won’t be able to do each and that may be a tragedy.

Dr. Andrew Fox created a chaplaincy program on the Austin Hearth Division, the place he served because the lead chaplain in a volunteer capability for eight years, incomes the belief and respect of native firefighters. In a private weblog, nothing linked to his work, only a private weblog, Dr. Fox shared his non secular views, non secular views particularly concerning marriage. Metropolis officers demanded he recant his statements and apologize for the hurt that his weblog submit allegedly brought about. He defined that he meant solely to foster dialogue and never trigger offense and he apologized if anybody was offended. His apology apparently wasn’t sufficient for metropolis officers, who demanded complete compliance with their most well-liked views on marriage, views that didn’t embrace his personal non secular beliefs. They pressured Dr. Fox handy in his uniform. He might maintain his job or his beliefs, however not each.

We shouldn’t be stunned by the present state of affairs. In spite of everything, it was abundantly clear throughout the Obergefell oral argument earlier than the Supreme Court docket that this risk to spiritual nonprofits could be forthcoming. The prescient trade between Justice [Samuel] Alito after which Solicitor Common Donald Verrilli forecasted the current hostility and the corresponding threats to spiritual organizations.

Justice Alito requested whether or not, ought to states be required to acknowledge same-sex marriages, non secular universities might lose their tax-exempt standing. His response, the response from Solicitor Common Verrilli was chilling. He stated, quote, “It’s definitely going to be a difficulty. I don’t deny that. I don’t deny that, Justice Alito. It’s going to be a difficulty.”…

It is a matter in the present day. And underneath this laws, it is going to solely worsen tomorrow, until we take affirmative steps to stop that from taking place.

And we’ve got the chance to take action right here and we shouldn’t miss it. In contrast to the hypothetical, however solely non-existent marriages being threatened or discriminated in opposition to, these non secular organizations are at present, proper now, in court docket combating for his or her God-given and constitutionally-protected rights to dwell and function based on their beliefs and conscience.

They’re being focused and harassed by those that would drive them to desert their convictions and embrace the convictions most well-liked by the federal government.

Sadly, the hostages in danger on this standoff are those that have benefited from the charitable work of those establishments: the poor, the hungry, the refugee, the scholar, and the orphan. As an alternative of resolving the priority posed by Justice Alito, this laws will put the weighty thumb of presidency on the dimensions in opposition to non secular organizations and people. Now, they are saying, “Don’t fear. You possibly can nonetheless consider as you would like, but when, in residing out your religion, you offend the views sanctioned by the federal government, you’ll undergo the implications.”

What can we get for this heavy sacrifice of non secular freedom? Are we assuaging the struggling of same-sex households about to be destroyed by authorities interference? No.

As I’ve stated, we haven’t heard of even one potential risk to same-sex marriage, not one. The one final result we will anticipate from this laws is for non secular people, companies, and establishments to spend extra time and more cash defending their God-given rights in court docket.

In our pluralistic society, we should be prepared to compromise and adapt in order that we would dwell peaceably with each other. In that spirit of compromise, allow us to make sure that we’re defending households, each conventional and same-sex households, and that we’re defending the precise to consider as we want and dwell out these beliefs with out authorities interference. I consider we will do each. In truth, I do know we will do each.

Now, the Collins-Baldwin Modification takes a step in the precise path and I’m grateful for that. Rabbis, imams and pastors ought to by no means be pressured to carry out a wedding opposite to their beliefs, however non secular liberty is a lot greater than marriage and it entails a lot greater than what may go on throughout the 4 partitions of a mosque, a synagogue, or a church. It definitely entails and should embody the flexibility of individuals to observe their religion not solely at church, however at house and within the public sq..

Within the hope that we will come to a spot the place we respect one another, I’ve provided an modification to this laws that may explicitly decrease the threats to those non secular organizations and people. I’m on the desk. I’m prepared to compromise and, within the spirit of compromise, I’ve publicly said, and I reiterate right here once more in the present day, that I’ll help the laws if my modification is adopted.

My modification merely prohibits the federal authorities from discriminating in opposition to colleges, companies, and organizations based mostly on their non secular beliefs about same-sex marriage. That’s all it does. It’s quite simple and I’m grateful that we’re going to have the prospect to vote on it later in the present day.

I’m additionally grateful to the work of my good friend and colleague, Sen. Dan Sullivan from Alaska, who, working along with a number of of my different Republican colleagues, helped safe and schedule this vote. I’m grateful to him for that effort.

My modification prevents the Inside Income Service, amongst different issues, from revoking the tax-exempt standing of those charities and organizations just because they act based on their beliefs in regards to the divine goal of marriage.

It prevents the Division of Schooling from focusing on colleges with honor codes based mostly on the truth that they’ve obtained provisions of their honor codes based mostly on non secular beliefs. It protects people from being denied enterprise licenses or grants or different statuses based mostly on their views about marriage. It protects Individuals who want to act based on their non secular beliefs from being pressured to desert their God-given mandates to like, serve, and take care of the poor, the orphan, and the refugee. If we permit the federal government to threaten their potential to take action, then the non secular liberty of each American is in peril.

That’s why I might ask those that have doubts about this to rethink doubts about my modification. In the event that they object to my modification and are inclined to vote in opposition to it based mostly on the truth that they regard it as pointless, then why not cross it?

This can be a reputable concern that some could argue this, as I’ve been advised by lots of the invoice’s sponsors, that my modification is pointless as a result of, based on them, the Collins substitute modification comprises protections that already accommodate this concern.

Now, the Collins substitute modification does, in reality, include some protections. I’m grateful that these had been included and that could be a significant step in the precise path. I have to level out, nevertheless, that it doesn’t do what my modification does and, due to this fact, doesn’t do what lots of its proponents are claiming. Nowhere in that laws is an announcement prohibiting the federal authorities from taking opposed motion in opposition to a person or an entity based mostly on a honest non secular perception about same-sex marriage, whether or not that non secular perception is one which embraces or doesn’t embrace same-sex marriage.

It doesn’t try this. It as a substitute says that nothing on this act shall be construed to change or deny any standing or advantage of any group. These are two very various things. That language doesn’t do what my modification does. You see, the risk will not be and by no means was based mostly on what the act itself would do. The act doesn’t purport to itself deny or alter any standing or profit or proper. And so by taking that away, they’re paying lip service to the necessity for my modification, however they’re not really addressing it.

The risk has been current, not less than since Obergefell itself was determined, for the explanations that prompted Justice Alito to ask then Solicitor Common Verrilli a query about it and the identical causes that prompted Solicitor Common Verrilli to acknowledge that it was going to be a difficulty. Those self same causes exist in the present day. They don’t go away due to this laws. If something, they’re enhanced. The danger is enhanced because of this laws.

That’s why that is the proper alternative. It’s the proper alternative. It might be the one alternative to guarantee that, as we’re enterprise a legislative effort to codify rights for one group of Individuals, we don’t accomplish that in a very un-American manner—that’s improve the rights of some on the expense of others. That’s not how we roll. That’s not how we do issues on this nation. We are able to shield each of those pursuits on the identical time, simply as we will stroll and chew gum.

And so for many who would say the Lee modification isn’t mandatory as a result of the Collins modification already takes care of it, that’s simply not true. And even when it had been true, why not settle for the Lee modification, anyway? Which begs the query, why wouldn’t anybody wish to deny the federal authorities the authority to retaliate in opposition to people, nonprofits, and different entities based mostly on their sincerely held non secular beliefs? Take into consideration that for a minute. Why wouldn’t they wish to deny that very energy from a authorities that will wield it in a manner that’s categorically abusive?

For my Republican associates, who’re sympathetic to the necessity for my modification and are going to help it, I’d ask that, in the event that they help it and if the modification fails, that you simply not help the underlying invoice as a result of, if you happen to help my modification, hopefully, presumably, which means since you agree that it does one thing, that it does one thing mandatory. It definitely doesn’t counteract, contradict, or undermine the said goal of this invoice in any manner. So if you happen to consider that it’s mandatory and also you’re going to vote for it, if it fails, it is best to oppose passage of this invoice until or till the Lee modification is adopted. We might get this achieved.

I perceive that it’s not going to occur so long as there are not less than 10 Republicans prepared to hitch with each Democrat with a view to help this laws, but when even three of the 12 Republicans contemplating help for this laws ultimately, if even three of them supporting my modification would determine to not help the invoice until or till the Lee modification was added, I’m assured, certainly, I’m sure that it might and would finally be adopted.

As I stated, Madame President, we should be prepared to compromise to guard the pursuits of all. I urge my colleagues to help my modification, which might guarantee that each one Individuals would have sure rights and that their non secular beliefs and their ethical convictions might be explicitly protected and supply some consolation that Congress will not be purposely passing legal guidelines that limit the free train of faith. Thanks, Madame President.

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