‘Very partial’: Deputy PM dismisses claim that Johnson saw Covid as ‘nature’s way of dealing with old people’

Oliver Dowden has dismissed the declare that former prime minister Boris Johnson noticed Covid as “nature’s manner of coping with previous individuals”.

Dowden, who serves as deputy prime minister and chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, mentioned that that account, which was revealed on the Covid inquiry yesterday, was “very partial”.

He advised Sky Information: “I’m fairly positive that when the previous prime minister offers proof, he’ll give a full account of himself”, including: “I’m not going to present commentary on one particular person piece of data.”

The previous PM’s purported feedback emerged as Lee Cain, the previous PM’s communications chief, and Dominic Cummings, a senior adviser to Boris Johnson in Downing Road, each gave oral proof to the inquiry on Tuesday.

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The particular comment that Covid was “nature’s manner of coping with previous individuals” emerged from notes written by former chief scientist Sir Patrick Vallance in August 2020.

He wrote: “Numbers are going up & up. PM advised he has been performing early and the general public are with him (however his occasion isn’t). He says his occasion ‘thinks the entire thing is pathetic and Covid is simply Nature’s manner of coping with previous individuals — and I’m not fully positive I disagree with them. Numerous reasonable individuals suppose it’s a bit an excessive amount of.’”.

An additional be aware from August 2020 reads: “[Boris Johnson was] obsessive about older individuals accepting their destiny and letting the younger get on with life and the economic system going. Fairly bonkers set of exchanges.”

Elsewhere Johnson advised Cain, his director of communications, through WhatsApp in October 2020: “Jeeez. I need to say I’ve been barely rocked by a number of the knowledge on covid fatalities. The median age is 82-81 for males 85 for girls. That’s above life expectancy. So get COVID and reside longer. Hardly anybody below 60 goes into hospital (4 per cent) and of these nearly all survive. 

“And I now not purchase all this nhs overwhelmed stuff. Of us I feel we could must recalibrate. There are max 3m on this nation aged over 80.”

Dominic Cummings’s exasperation with Johnson’s early Covid method was captured in WhatsApps despatched throughout a 19 March 2020 assembly which included the previous prime minister.

“Get in right here he’s melting down”, Cummings messaging Cain, in an obvious reference to Johnson.

“I’ve actually mentioned identical factor ten f—ing instances and he nonetheless received’t take up it”, Cummings wrote in one other message.

Requested this morning about Cummings’ testimony yesterday, Dowden advised Sky Information this morning” didn’t have quite a lot of time to observe all the proceedings” however “caught a few of it”.

He mentioned Cummings gave a “full and frank account”, however added: “I feel it’s essential that the inquiry takes all these bits of proof, items them collectively, after which will get to the reality of precisely what occurred, produces its conclusions, after which the federal government will reply totally and comprehensively.”

It was additionally claimed yesterday that Rishi Sunak, then chancellor, had blocked the concept of paying individuals on low wages to self-isolate to cease Covid unfold.

Dowden defended Sunak, saying: “The present prime minister Rishi Sunak might be giving proof to that inquiry.

“I feel he’s received an terrible lot to be pleased with when it comes to the best way he carried out himself.”

The deputy PM cited the job retention scheme which saved “many tens of millions” of jobs.

He additionally insisted to Occasions Radio that the working of presidency is now higher than it was in the course of the pandemic.

Requested if issues had been higher now than they had been then, the Dowden defined: “Sure, it’s definitely the case that now we have learnt the teachings in some ways.

“Initially I ought to say after I gave proof to the inquiry I dedicated that the Cupboard Workplace would be taught the teachings that the inquiry comes up with when it comes to how we conduct ourselves in future.

“However now we have not sat nonetheless since Covid occurred.”

He added: “That is an ongoing course of and naturally the conclusions of this inquiry will assist inform additional steps.”

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