Glee’s Kevin McHale, Jenna Ushkowitz Recall Lea Michele Drama

Not holding again. Jenna Ushkowitz and Kevin McHale are launching their new Glee rewatch podcast, “And That’s What You Actually Missed,” they usually don’t plan to carry again.

“I feel once I mentioned I’m not gonna sugarcoat it … we’ve danced round quite a bit, proper? As a result of I’d at all times say to Kevin, ‘Generally it’s not our story to inform,’” Ushkowitz, 36, solely informed Us Weekly on Monday, October 31. “There’s like dancing round, clearly, the Glee curse and the deaths of our associates and a number of the on-set drama that you just hear. And I feel this time, it’ll be exhausting, however like, I’m gonna inform it from my perspective and my expertise ’trigger that’s all I can do.”


Kevin McHale and Jenna Ushkowitz.
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The Broadway alum and McHale, 34, performed Tina and Artie, respectively, on all six seasons of the hit Fox comedy, which aired from 2009 to 2015. Nonetheless, Glee has continued to make headlines lately with extra revelations about on-set conduct, together with the Lea Michele bullying allegations introduced ahead by Samantha Marie Ware in 2020. Michele apologized whereas claiming she had no reminiscence of the incidents.

McHale admitted that there have been moments the place he questioned a few of Michele’s conduct. “All of us come from totally different backgrounds and totally different experiences and there have been positively moments of, like, ‘Is that standard?’ However we didn’t essentially know any higher and we had been all studying collectively. And I do know that seems like some political roundabout reply,” he informed Us.

The X Issue UK alum continued, “But when [Michele] wished to come back again on [the podcast], I don’t know. I feel, for some folks, in the event that they wanna go away, like, the present type of prior to now and he or she’s, like, doing nice and I’ve had so many associates go see her in her present, [Funny Girl]. It seems like she’s unimaginable. In fact she is.”

“And That’s What You Actually Missed,” an iHeart Radio podcast, is Ushkowitz and McHale’s second Glee rewatch with followers. They beforehand went via episodes of Glee on their “Showmance” podcast, which they ended abruptly after Naya Rivera‘s unintended drowning in 2020. Although Michele, 36, was a visitor on the debut of their final podcast, they aren’t certain the Scream Queens alum will make an look on the brand new one.

Glee's Kevin McHale and Jenna Ushkowitz Recall Lea Michele Drama: 'There Are Tougher Times Than I'd Like to Remember'

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“Effectively, she did come on the final podcast, proper? I’m unsure that she’ll come on this one, and that’s OK,” Ushkowitz mentioned, noting that she’d grown up with Michele as little one actors on Broadway. “To be sincere, we’d recognized one another for a extremely very long time rising up. There [were] positively harder instances than I’d like to recollect, however I wasn’t at all times a whole pleasure to be round on set both. It was six years — virtually one year [a year] — and 12 hour days, no person is on their recreation or smiling the entire time. In order that’s what I’ll say about that. She confirmed up and he or she did her job and you’ll see that and, you understand, like, even Humorous Woman, which I’m certain folks will ask [us about] and also you’ll ask, like, I’m certain she’s phenomenal and I’ve little question that she’s bringing down that home each night time.”

It wasn’t simply costar conflicts that had been an issue. Within the Monday, October 31, premiere episode of the pal’s podcast, showrunner Ryan Murphy famous he was barely ready to run a multimillion-dollar enterprise and was particularly under-qualified to cope with problems with habit, home abuse and undesirable pregnancies as they got here up behind the scenes.

Ushkowitz defined, “I feel additionally speaking about psychological well being, even Ryan introduced that up within the first episode. Like, that wasn’t a factor within the office after we had been on set. I feel we wanna dive into a few of these issues and the way that may’ve affected us in a different way had it been 2022.”

“And That’s What You Actually Missed” is out there on iHeartRadio and all main podcast platforms.

With reporting by Christina Garibaldi