When interviewing actor Kurt Russell about his starring role in Quentin Tarantino's violent "Hateful Eight," reporter Jeffrey Wells was quick to turn the conversation toward the politics of guns in hopes of having Kurt support his liberal views.
According to Hollywood Elsewhere, Jeffrey steered the conversation towards the Paris and San Bernardino attacks, implying that that sort of violence is becoming the norm with today's gun culture.
Kurt replied, "I don’t understand concepts of conversation [about] the gun culture. We’ve lived with guns since, what, the 7th Century or something?"
To which Jeffrey replied, trying to categorize gun owners, "Well, I think we all know…guns are a trope. Not a trope but a totem, a metaphor that disenfranchised white guys need…it makes them feel good about themselves."
Kurt disagreed with him, and Jeffrey defended his statement saying, "Well, it’s statistically irrefutable."
And that's when the actor lit into him.
Kurt replied, "If you think gun control is going to change the terrorists’ point of view, I think you’re...out of your mind. I think anybody [who says that] is. I think it’s absolutely insane. The problem...that we’re having right now to turn it around…you may think you’ve got me worried about you’re gonna do? Dude, you’re about to find out what I’m gonna do, and that’s gonna worry you a lot more. And that‘s what we need. That will change the concept of gun culture, as you call it, to something [like] reality. Which is, if I’m a hockey team and I’ve got some guy bearing down on me as a goal tender, I’m not concerned about what he’s gonna do — I’m gonna make him concerned about what I’m gonna do…to stop him."
Jeffrey then pointed out how easily terrorists can get guns.
Kurt fired back again, with both barrels, saying "They can also make a bomb pretty easily. So what? They can also get knives and stab you. Whaddaya gonna do about that? They can also get cars and run you over. Whaddaya gonna do about that? Outlaw everything? That isn’t the answer."
"Just put some controls..." Jeffrey started to interject.
Kurt cut him off, exclaiming, "Put some controls? What...so the people who want to defend themselves can’t?"
Jeffrey defended his position, saying "No, not so you can’t, just so the idiots can’t get hold of them [so easily], that’s all."
But Kurt concluded, "You really believe they’re not going to? Are you serious about that? What good will that…? Oh my God. You and I just disagree. I understand that you think you can control the behavior of people that are dead set on taking your way of life away from you. You think you can control that? And there’s only one thing you can do with that. And that’s [to say} ‘No, dude, that’s not gonna happen. That’s just not gonna happen.’"
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